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Fury vs Joshua was unveiled as a done deal, the kind of fight British boxing has chased for years. Within 48 hours, the promoter fronting the event admitted he had no idea whether it would happen. This article breaks down what really fell apart behind the announcement, who's pointing fingers at whom, and how much danger the fight is actually in.
Forty-eight hours turned out to be all it took for a fully confirmed fight to look shaky again. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua had been locked in for Cardiff's Principality Stadium, set for 11 December, yet Dana White - one of the men credited with promoting the show - stood in front of reporters days later and admitted he simply didn't know whether the bout would go ahead. Neither boxer has backed away. What's wobbling instead is the paperwork behind them.
How "official" became a question mark
On paper, Thursday's reveal had every detail nailed down - Fury against Joshua, at the Principality Stadium, on 11 December, streaming worldwide on Netflix. The gaps in that announcement said as much as the confirmed facts. Netflix and Saudi powerbroker Turki Alalshikh framed it as a joint venture between Alalshikh's The Ring and Dana White's Zuffa Boxing. Nowhere in that framing did Matchroom's Eddie Hearn appear, despite having guided Joshua's entire pro career, and nor did Queensberry's Frank Warren, who has promoted Fury for years.
Few close observers found that surprising. For weeks beforehand, White had insisted he'd have a hand in Fury-Joshua, while Hearn had made clear, just as firmly, that he wouldn't tolerate it. Once the fight was announced, Hearn went further, arguing that Joshua's contract explicitly rules out any promotional involvement for White or TKO - and alleging Netflix had never been informed of that condition. He also pointed to unresolved breaches of the agreement, and questioned openly whether the London news conference planned for Wednesday would even take place.
Fury tells it differently where his own paperwork is concerned. According to him, a comparable clause was once in his contract as well, but he had it struck out specifically so White could be part of the deal. Warren, by contrast, has sounded far less alarmed than either camp. In comments made before this latest flare-up, he told BBC Sport that, as he understood it, White had actually helped land the Netflix agreement, and that some give-and-take had simply been necessary to get the fight over the line.
Why White's answer mattered more than a shrug
White made his comments at the Copper Box in London on Saturday night, where British heavyweight Johnny Fisher saw off Michael Pirotton in his first outing under the Zuffa Boxing banner. When a reporter asked directly whether Fury-Joshua would go ahead, his reply was blunt: "I don't know." A follow-up about Wednesday's press conference got much the same response: "I have no idea."
The weight of those words comes from who spoke them. This isn't an outsider guessing - White is listed as a co-promoter of the fight itself When the man behind an event can't confirm its own launch date, that's not evasiveness for effect; it signals a real distance between what got announced and what's actually locked down.
On the subject of Hearn, though, White left no ambiguity. "The guy who is supposed to be helping the fight has been hurting the fight," he said, adding: "He hasn't done the fight any favours." Coming from someone whose own contractual footing is itself in question, the remark reads as much personal as it does procedural.
A single evening of leaks, rumours and social sniping
Things got murkier still on Friday night. Fresh reports claimed Fury-Joshua might collapse entirely, with talk of backup fights for the 11 December date - among them Ryan Garcia facing Terence Crawford, the three-weight undisputed champion who only recently retired. Crawford's own reaction suggested he hadn't been consulted; he publicly cast doubt on the idea that he'd be fighting Garcia at all.
Fury weighed in himself next, releasing a video accusing Joshua and Hearn of "trying to pull out" and laying most of the blame on Hearn's resistance to White's involvement. For his part, Joshua has issued nothing to suggest he wants out. Alalshikh added his own layer of intrigue on Instagram, sharing photos alongside White before posting a cryptic Arabic message about someone trying to "stab you where you told them it hurts" - with no direct mention of the fight. Hearn's reply was a photo paired with a shushing emoji and the caption: "Bet against me."
This is a fight that's been argued over in public for years, so the reappearance of accusations, denials and coded posts within 48 hours of a supposedly done deal fits an old pattern. What it confirms, really, is that the announcement arrived before the actual agreement did.
What White's role could mean once lawyers get involved
On the US broadcast of Saturday's Zuffa card, the idea was floated that White was assisting Alalshikh personally rather than acting as an official promoter - a difference that could carry real weight if Joshua's contract is as specific as Hearn claims. White dismissed that theory outright: "I don't know where that came from. That was weird." Pressed on whether he'd show up to Wednesday's conference if it happens, he stayed coy: "I guess I'll leave that as a surprise."
That lack of clarity is arguably the whole story here. Depending on whether White counts as a promoter, an advisor, or some role Alalshikh's camp hasn't publicly pinned down, Hearn's objection either carries legal force or it doesn't. Since no one has resolved that question openly, it's a fair bet nothing has been settled behind closed doors either.
So is the fight still happening?
Officially, the answer is still yes. Netflix's listing, as of Saturday night, kept Fury and Joshua booked for the card on 11 December at the Principality Stadium, with both fighters expected at Wednesday's conference. Underneath that listing, though, the contract dispute remains open - and that unresolved detail carries far more weight than any single post online.
Too much money, time and effort sits behind this fight for any party - White and Hearn included - to simply walk away from it. Still, the last decade of boxing has shown repeatedly that a public announcement and a genuinely secure fight aren't the same thing. Once more, Fury-Joshua needs one more obstacle cleared before it can be called certain.
FAQ
Frequently Asked Questions
The fight was announced for 11 December at Cardiff's Principality Stadium, streaming globally on Netflix. As of Saturday night, Netflix's listing hadn't changed.
Hearn argues that Joshua's deal explicitly blocks Dana White and TKO from any promotional role, and says Netflix was never told about that condition before the fight was announced.
Asked directly whether Fury-Joshua will happen, White said "I don't know." He was similarly uncertain about whether the scheduled Wednesday news conference would take place.
Friday's reports floated alternative fights, including Ryan Garcia facing Terence Crawford, as a possible backup, though Crawford himself questioned the idea publicly.
No. Tyson Fury claimed in a video that Joshua and Hearn were "trying to pull out," but there has been no announcement from Joshua confirming that.
Research: This article uses the archived evidence supplied for this story. Story inspiration: BBC Sport's original report.